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Jun 8, 2024
Anon
6/9/24, 3:20 AM
Also I am not going to lie, considering what gil and the others have become I really am sticking with your headcanon ruby was turned. Because if she didn't....her fate would have been horrible- Rudolf likely would have been made to incline and silence her for good. He restrained himself back then, but seeing what gil has become now? He'd probably never do it as the years went by. Forget alicent hightower, her fate would likely be that of ceryse hightower or those of the nobility who died in the dance of dragons in the worst case scenario.
Pcm
6/9/24, 4:02 AM
@Anon Probably, in their furutre apearances they will likely keep the familial love and affection that define them, but they will nevertheless be noticeably darker and more ruthless. They likely won't partake in cannibalism, though. Gil as he used to be would be horrified, but his new self would probably just laugh off at his young naive insecure self. The demons plan to take over eventually, but they are patient. They believe that it is inevitable that the world will become theirs eventually, maybe not now, not in tenyears, not in hudreds of years, but it will become theirs nevertheless. Pleasure is foremost in their mind, with certain demons like William being an exception due to his anger. Daniel is a strange case. I kinda want my readers to like and hate him at the same time. I'm still ambivalent about his ultimate fate too. As for Ruby...like I said, her fate is up for you to decide.
Anon
6/9/24, 4:17 AM
@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) Make no mistake, I both pity and loathe Daniel. I completely understand why he is the way he is- Gil was his first squire, and losing him and his death after likely broke him. Reincarnating after likely would have been it's own kind of horror- he's lived a horribly tragic life. But he coped in the worst way possible, and essentially used Collin like a tool. I can see why he did it- he wants to protect his people and after what happened with Gil sentimentality is likely the last thing he wants to lean on-but he's become horribly brutal and cruel in the name of defending his homeland. And he's made far too many enemies- I don't see him coming out of this alive. Nobody would want to give him the "honor" of transforming him. Honestly, I'm glade you left Ruby's fate open ended now- at least one can imagine something okay for her. I think that kindness is what fundamentally separates Daniel from Collin. Collin truly cares about the people, afflicted or not- Daniel has no compassion left to give, and that is going to be his ruination. Yeah....Gil just seems like a walking tragedy. Seeing him fall so far is just....well it's heartrending. This is really what makes me feel so despondent reading transformation stories sometimes. His whole family really- it's just....I think I grew attached to how they were in this prequel series and how they somehow managed to retain some parts of who they were before and knowing that in knightly duties they're going to be different and essentially wholly corrupted is...well it's a little sad. There's always a cost- one way or another, and it's expected really- the primal beast's plan is for just that- but it's still sad. And now the west has truly become a nightmarish land in totality, with Gil and his family a horrifying group to face. There was still some human aspect left 50 years ago, but that's all gone now save for those of their people. I'm truly fearful of how their ruthlessness will express itself- if they were able to massacre knights 50 years ago- who knows what they're capable of now? And I can't imagine what horrors Aaron might wind up facing thanks to that...or Collin. Somehow you've managed to make me scared over what they might do- and hoping they don't show up, but also wanting them to- when all I wanted to see in this series was more elaboration on them without any hesitation. It's...slightly surreal but I think I'm just more worried over Collin now. As for the demons- I'm assuming they can convert other races, but those races can't convert demons. So in that case, they can play the long game. William might throw a wrench in their plans, but likely not by much. It'd be somewhat ironic if the demons do retreat, and then just demonize everybody in some far off future invasion. To be completely honest, looking at this from a less erotic perspective, one could easily see this as a well written series of tragedies. In the short term, the people win- Gil was able to save himself and his people by accepting ferality and the primal beast and reunited with his family. But in the long run well...their victory only serves to undo themselves into being puppets for the gods and demons- as we shall see with Gil and the others. The familial bond is preserved at least...but at what cost? Like you put it, had Gil seen what he would become, he would have been horrified- yet Gil likely wouldn't leave his family alone either- there's a horrible sense of tragic finality in all of this. Then again, better something rather than nothing. But I don't see Collin making it out of this in a good shape either- his own family would probably want to eliminate his purifying powers and demonize him, and the beast folk want him dead. He too, will likely become a tragic figure, perhaps even worse than Daniel. Daniel is a threat in the short term- but Collin could potentially undo the works of all the non human factions. But really, a small terrified part of me wants to see what Gil and the other's thought process is now. A part of me however, also fears it. As it stands however, it's likely humanity will fall victim to all these old gods or the demons, and likely the demons will swallow everything up once they gain enough strength. Perhaps things will only end when the planet itself cannot support life anymore, and the demons flee to the infernal realm -leaving it an empty husk. As erotic as the journey there might be, so too is there a gaping maw of tragedy and horror surrounding it.
Pcm
6/9/24, 5:28 AM
@Anon Poor Daniel....the morally compromised bulwark in the world wrought by the fire of eroticism. That's exactly the idea I strived for in this series, familial love over morality. Gil was selfish, but his selfishness was unique because it made not jyst him but also people he loved happy. To those outside of his (rather large) circle? He ultimately decided to give up on them. It is a good ending for HIM and HIS family. I attempted to hide throughout the story that tendency for the Wolf family to place family first even before the transformation, note how the brothers are fine with Rudy's worrying womanizing tendency and there was even a mention that they had beaten up "punks" together "as a pack", or the fact that they worshipped their father for being a valiant hero who participated in the massacre of a noble family. They were extremely loyal to each other and that loyalty made them easy to corrupt. Well, one could always earn their favor by pledging himself to the west. I am glad that people are rooting for Collin, very very glad actually. The story I want to write from now on will rely on Collin, which is why it was worrying when the chapter where he made his appearance was the worst received of my stories on this site so far.... Glad that you all would be willing to give him a second chance.
Jul 20, 2022
2/11/24, 3:27 AM
My god I wish I could live in this hot fucking world. Damn. All that cum cock and freedom. Heaven
6/9/24, 4:22 AM
@[John Rogers](/user/show/10022487) Hey, never did respond to this comment! Yeah, I admit, as someone who writes in Consummation, I frequently wish I could be in it. No inhibitions, all the sex you want whenever you want it, freedom indeed. But I'm glad this world is still fun to escape to, even if it's only in our heads.
Jun 8, 2024
Anon
6/8/24, 9:21 PM
Welp, that explains why Collin pulled a disappearing act. He's essentially gone and and cured Gil's grandson Aaron (or stepgrandson?)- no wonder Gil and the other's are pissed- Collin essentially made sure he'd never go back. But honestly, Collin is kind of right- Gilbert wasn't there to raise him, and as much as it was tactically sound for everybody in the east to convert- at this point this is going well into the "infiltrate and convert" plan they told Ruby about in the last chapter- which naturally the west doesn't want to be a part of- and they have the right to not want to be a part of that- that's not who they are. Gil might be his grandfather, but he has no familial relation to Aaron at this point in truth as Collin points out. This is essentially a offensive war play, and essentially shows the darker side of the primal beasts' agenda. It's frightening to see just how terrifying Gil can be to his enemies, but collin had every right to do what he did. And frankly better that than the grandmasters' suggestion. Seeing what became of Daniel was utterly heartbreaking. Here we see him in the twilight years of his life, having lost his squire and many of his comrades-either to death or conversion. As a result of that, no wonder he pivoted to the order to academia and healing- they don't have the manpower anymore. And how even did the current king managed to literally get hoodwinked into marrying a western noble (how do you even manage to do that- did she come from the border regions? Seriously I'd expect greater security from them). Seeing him terrified over Collin's safety is just an echo of his feelings for Gil- and he's probably terrified now that his former squire is probably going to try and kill his current one. The grandmaster being harsh in light of wanting to kill the prince makes sense, but it's also a terrifying reminder that the order doesn't play around- shame that also caused William to go nuts. Also the fact that he died by being torn apart and was reincarnated is honestly terrifying- the man is probably traumatized just thinking about Gil. How does one even cope with the fact that a person you loved literally joined the side of the people who literally killed you? And was responsible for the death of many of your comrades? I wouldn't be surprised if he hates him now. On the other hand, he's kind of a hypocrite wanting to protect Collin but was willing to leave Collin's actual family in severe distress- would it really have killed him to tell him that he needed to stay hidden? I kind of hate him too because from knightly duties it seems he probably overworked Collin based on the conversation William and the others had during the dinner in Chapter 2. And Daniel is half the reason for the demon outbreaks because hiding that was enough to tempt William and the others to the demons thanks to his secrecy. So much for "wanting to protect the family"- more like "I'm going to offer them up on a platter to get taken advantage of in their grief!". Did this man learn nothing from what happened from Gil- oh wait he just blamed it on western norms and decided to be a bigot no wonder he's being stupid. I guess he thought William and the others wouldn't do anything stupid- big mistake there! In light of that, as much as I can understand why Gil is acting like this- I'm a little infuriated because that means they literally are responsible for the demon outbreak to some degree- the order failing to actually tell his family what was going on is another major blunder- Daniel literally saw Gil go to the beast folk in the name of family- did they really not anticipate William and the others doing the same with the demons potentially? I hope this all blows up in their face (the beast folk and the order)- they deserve to be inconvenienced a little- and Collin really doesn't deserve this. But with the promise Gil and his family has made, I can't imagine William and the others will take that lying down, even if they are demons now. Collin is still theirs- human or not. What's ironic is what doomed Gil is what saved Aaron. Hopefully, Collin will be able to dodge whatever the west has planned- because he sure doesn't deserve death- for himself or his loved ones. And honestly, I hope Collin manages to uncorrupt everyone. I know that's not really the point of this story, but I'm rooting for him now. Gil just had to go and screw everything up didn't he- he and Daniel both! But this also means that when Collin learns what became of his family he's going to be devastated. Imagine faking your death to protect your family only to find them corrupted by something else. Sure they are alive- but they aren't even themselves anymore. Collin is going to not only have to figure out how to save his family, but potentially fight off a beast folk invasion. Because as Gil and the others told ruby fifty years ago, they aren't going to stop trying to inch their way into eastern territory. I'm not sure how knightly duties is going to go, but I can easily see a full blown western invasion looming ahead at this point, probably to take advantage of the chaos of the demon outbreaks.... On the other hand I feel William and the others are going to pissed when they realize they might have essentially played into the beastfolk's hands by starting an outbreak. Collin isn't even dead, he was trying to save the king, and somehow they managed to do exactly what the west wanted them to do- which is topple the kingdom. Or they might be too broken by pleasure to really ponder that at this point. But I do think they'll change their plans once they realize this- it's likely the east will likely be overrun by the demon outbreak- they don't have the manpower- but Collin may be able to pull some kind of cure out. But if he's done for then all really is lost- and honestly I don't want that to happen. As much as their motives are to take over the kingdom- if they realize Collin is alive- they might wind up focusing on the beastfolk instead. Unfortunately, thanks to Daniel being a hypocritical idiot- it's likely that won't happen until after the entire kingdom gets overrun with demons to utterly tragic irony. ....Honestly looking at everything objectively I'm suddenly starting to realize why Ruby freaked out so badly at the end of the last chapter. And somehow I've gone from feeling bad about Gil and Daniel to wanting to wallop them on the head, and have Collin manage to escape them both- Gil is literally laying claim on somebody he doesn't even know with Aaron, and Daniel honestly doesn't even seem all that good to Collin based on the overworking and botching the fake death which will likely screw him over- I'm seeing some unreliable narrator going on. Heck, at the rate this is going, he might wind up all alone because his family is too far gone and turn into a second Ruby (I'm going with the "she got converted" headcanon of yours, but this entire situation sucks for him- and I can easily see a situation where he doesn't wind up winning and has to constantly be on the run- either that or the west and east wind up annihilating each other in a war. Honestly now I want to see Aaron again- the man kind of indirectly caused Collin to have a target on his head due to being infected, and I wonder how he and the king are going to feel about that. Because I can guarantee that if they take Collin's efforts for granted, William and the others are going to be infuriated when they come knocking. We already have them vowing to outright topple the monarchy already as it is. The king and Aaron better start thinking about how to fix this mess fast or they're going to be dealing with a potential beastfolk invasion and a demon insurgency. As for Daniel- I hope that man gets some sense knocked in his head (the man is clearly traumatized to some extent and not thinking straight either- and honestly I really doubt his perception of the situation to some extent), and that Gil and the others get warded off at some point.
Pcm
6/9/24, 2:09 AM
@[Anon](/user/show/10049352) Aaron is Gil's grandson, born from Gil's daughter Henriette (named after Henrich). The King cheated on the Queen and was seduced by her (Henriette did have Eastern feature inherited from her father, so no alarm was rung). The plan was for the King (who is admittedly meek and a family man) to raise Aaron. Once Aaron was old enough, he would transition into a wolfman, and unwilling to see jim leave, the king and his family would join him in the west and became wolfmen too. The Queen was a good person who hated her husband, but still loved the boy like her own. Throughout the decades, the Primal Beast has managed to twist and corrupted Gil and the beastmen very thoroughly. As essentially everyone they have ever loved is now a part of the pack on the same side under his service, there is no incentive to disobey the Primal Beast anymore. Daniel has progressively become a more cynical person over time. To be fair, Collin did have a unique power to heal and cure many types of corruption that even he himself was stumped. An example being the draconic madness (which induces a man to become obsessed with gathering gold for a dragon and worships that dragon). Before the stuff with Aaron, he might even hope for Col to take over eventually, if his health did not fail him. The beastmen did not plan for the demons invading, however. The demons had only recently returned. They cannot convert the east if the east has been demonified. In my mind, Collin is really the main protagonist in this setting really. When these series were just fantasy ideas without erotic element, the story was supposed to follow Collin, his time being tortured within the order, his role during demonic outbreak, and the confrontation with his now corrupted family. (Col is also bi and Eddie has to compete with a female RO for his affection, but that is likely not the case here.) The King, his sons, and Aaron, the grandmaster will be characters in knightly duties of course. Hope you like how they interact.
Jun 7, 2024
Anonymous
6/9/24, 1:48 AM
Amazing chapter can't wait for more!
Jun 8, 2024
6/8/24, 6:54 PM
This was absolutely fantastic and a great mirroring and reconstruction of the themes in the rest of the story. The same thing that doomed Gilbert saves Aaron. Also does a great job establishing the grandmaster as flawed but sympathetic, and Collin as someone who might be able to change everything. Makes chapter 4 work for me in a way it didn't on its own. Great job, and looking forward to seeing more of Colin in "Knightly Duties".
Pcm
6/9/24, 1:36 AM
@[BlindSeer0](/user/show/381024) You'll see a lot more Collin in Knightly Duties! Yes, Collin kinda used the theme of the series against Gil and the Wolfmen, which is ironic. Gil did transition from being a hero into an anti-villain and has now become a full-blown villain, unfortunately. The Primal Beast has fully corrupted him throughout the past decades.
Mar 24, 2023
6/9/24, 12:29 AM
WOW. It is so hot. it make me so horny
Jun 7, 2024
Anonymous
6/8/24, 1:33 AM
I knew that Tyler would figure things out about Brian’s scheme right away. But now why am I worried that Brian and/or Riley can now seduce Javi to turn him against the other three? I really _(really)_ don’t want Brian to win. Great stuff so far. I can’t wait for the next part.
6/9/24, 12:23 AM
@Anonymous I haven't thought of that. I hope this doesn't happen, REALLY hope. I don't know why but the thought of this option makes me cringe. I guess I really don't like the whole "an ally is made to become a foe in disguise due to brainwashing and shit" trope. Though a counter argument could be that Javi isn't bound to the same rules due to the addition of "remaining otherwise unchanged". Meaning that he can manifest a human body, but it cannot effect him in any other way.
Jun 7, 2024
6/9/24, 12:00 AM
I'm so glad I stuck around--thank you for your kindness in messaging me, @Naedre! This chapter is INCREDIBLE (and a lot of that has to do with the fact that Brian doesn't appear much, ha ha). Seeing Tyler, Noah, and Joe use their brains to outwit Brian is especially great given that he spent the whole last chapter bragging about how "superior" he is to them. Plus it's interesting to see characters thinking things through carefully in these stories; many of the tales on here have characters inadvertently falling into magical/hypnotic traps, and having Tyler immediately piece together what happened to Riley and how Brian was trying to use him as bait made me cheer. And you've done a fantastic job adding new dimensions to the heroic trio: Tyler's desire to protect others and his insecurities at being alone, Noah's hidden knowledge base (and social justice side!) and desire for love, and Joe's himbo nature belying a strong moral compass and acceptance of sexual liberation (he's a proud slut and encourages others to be the same!). The scene where he saves the kind woman from Warren (and she, in turn, proves completely accepting of homosexuality) is fantastic, and you do a great job at contrasting the transformative sex between Brian and the groom party (which was all for Brian's pleasure and didn't acknowledge their humanity) and Joe's time with Warren (when he fairly warns the other man about what will happen and is careful to consider how he is feeling). It's also great to see Javi actively assisting Tyler via loopholes--exact words are one of my favorite tropes, and seeing a genie use them for *good* as opposed to evil is a refreshing twist. It will be interesting to see what happens with his new human form--and Noah's contract; somehow I doubt that Brian will like being outvoted, and the democratic process might not work when magic is involved (especially since, as we saw, he could force Tyler to vote with him by threatening Riley). I'm genuinely excited to see what happens next! :D Thank you for the fantastic story!
May 20, 2024
6/8/24, 11:43 PM
Great transformation!
Jun 8, 2024
Anon
6/8/24, 10:19 PM
@[darkblade2814](/user/show/243317) Most likely that is likely how Collin will try to bargain with them if he can't cure them. It would likely be a way to stave off any demonic outbreaks in the east and obtain time to find a cure. On the other hand, if William and the others come to the conclusion that humans are too weak to survive the invasion, things might get even more terrifying as Collin will be on the run from everybody. But I can see them coming to a truce- the west are the enemy right now for those of kinghtly duties. I just hope that at least gil has some good reason for doing what he did to aaron and collin by extension. I can imagine him possibly actually liking the guy as a potential grandson and possibly bonding with him- but I can see considering how possessive they are of family why he's so infuriated. Still, the guy is being unhinged right now and it's terrifying. I hope Aaron manages to get some screen time to figure out how to navigate that. He'll likely become important in the coming war- he's essentially in the same place gil was 50 years ago to some extent- if his western stepmother was gils daughter, then its likely gil did see him as family so this became very personal, and considering his own experienves living amongst easteners i can get why aaron staying in the east is so enraging. So I get why he's doing it- I still hate that Collin is a puppet in between Daniel and gil though. Not to mention, based on how Daniel speaks of western custom, something tells me anti western sentiment is still strong in the east which would likely backfire on them. They can probably kiss the border regions goodbye for the most part once war starts. Not to mention if the demons wind up in large enough number, they'll probably be infuriated over how Collin was severed from his family as their leaders are infuriated, particularly if they were former knights. So really, the order is facing certain doom.
6/8/24, 10:59 PM
@[Anon](/user/show/10049352) I know that the order is a goner, I'm mostly worried about the civilians
Anon
6/8/24, 11:12 PM
@[darkblade2814](/user/show/243317) For the civilians....honestly this would be horrifying to live through. They're going to likely be crushed between either the demon insurgency, or the beastfolk invasion. Either that or they wind trying to find protection with an ever shrinking order, or nobles in fleeing abandon them to their fate. It'd be nothing but terror for them. Most of them will likely either be converted or killed. A few lucky ones may be able to flee, but likely only those far enough away from the western border or the epicenters of the daemon outbreaks.
6/8/24, 11:13 PM
@Anon and that is what i'm worried about