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9/2/24, 8:10 PM
Great story, still hope you can find the time to do the final chapter.
Anon
9/2/24, 2:56 PM
@Pcm When it comes to enchantments, ultimately while the demons have lived longer with them than without in their perception and believe them to be truth, they ultimately are a lie. Eventually, one way or another the lie would collapse. Maybe not in the short term, but death would be the end of the ability for that enchantment to have any effect. You could say that by perception the enchantments results are truth, but ultimately they are still very much a fabrication. And that eventually would trip forlorn up when he realizes that something is off if Eddie manages to resist as he has no connection to him. Even if forlorn has the memories, why would Eddie have any connection to him without them? The eastern refugees could easily see the primal beast as another godly figure but that they don't worship it (monolatry) or that he is some kind of other type of spirit but not to worship it (akin to how jinns are seen in near eastern mythologies- the concept of the jinn syncretized many spirit entities as being of them). Still more might turn to worship of it, and others may ignore it beyond any political necessity required for survival. Additionally, the northern attitudes towards the primal beast I suspect will be more in vogue amongst the eastern refugees- the west's blind loyalty did cause harm to the east and I don't think the refugees have compleltey forgotten about that- they might not bring it up anymore because the demons are now a much bigger problem but I doubt they would have forgotten.

Pcm
9/2/24, 5:26 PM
@[Anon](/user/show/10049352) Well, I was gonna show how Forlorn corruoted others in this chapter, but that would make it even longer, so I'm saving that for the next chapter. Basically, he is an erotic dream who has domonion over the mid of othersand can manipulate them to an exteng few other demons could. Disguised as a harmless cleric, any human who receives his healing will drow more and more demonic over, it is his way of ensuring his spawn could go undetected and bring as many into the fold as possible before they are found. He can even visit people in dreams and corrupts them in their sleep while they had the most arousing wet dream of their life. Maybe he does all three combined. His powers are twisted attributes of Collin's. Edsie will unfortunately stay and fight to cover others' escape, his duty demands him. Maybe if the evacuation goes, he may join them, but not a moment before. The nature of spul is complicated. Even if Collin has been Forlorn for so long, much longer tgan he has been Collin, would that not say tgat Forlorn is Collin's true self liberated from his moral restraint? Or that the soul itself has innate imprints of personality, which is another point of interest. The Wolfmen will have a hars tims accepting people who maintain the worship of dawn and dusk. Pb is very vocal about Gis enmity.

Anon
9/2/24, 5:41 PM
@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) Forlorn's methodology reminds me very much of the folklore of incubi and succubi that seduce people in dreams. Him disguising as a cleric and using magic to infuse people with demonic influences is a tragic corruption of who he was, but also fitting narratively. There also a subliminal horror in how a cleric, somebody you can trust, is now you potentially must run away from. Eddie staying until the end also makes sense. He is dutiful in every sense of the word. For me, the enchantments that made Collin Forlorn are ultimately based in a lie. Therefore, at most Forlorn is a twisted bastardization of Collin and his worst aspects brought to light imbalance without any of his positive qualities. For those who are unaware of the old reality, your analysis of Collin is correct- he will be seen as Collin's true self- because Collin no longer really exists and has perished. I do not see him as Collin's true self, but aspects of himself horribly distorted by demonic interference. That isn't really him anymore. When it comes to the soul, growing up I was taught of a concept of the inner soul (the ego) known as the nafs. While it is often seen as something to be controlled as it's the source of one's desires in it's most primal state- it in itself is not evil- but as it's the source of one's desires and wants- it can become bad if one does not control it. The nafs however can be controlled, restrained and eventually made to be a force of good rather than evil however- this is not done by merely suppressing all desire (as the eastern knights did which led to disastrous overcorrections, but by restraining and channeling it appropriately). It is not inherently evil on it's own. The concept has been seen as similar to the Ubermensch of the philsoopher Nietzsche, to the point that the indian philosopher Muhammad Iqbal thought Nitezche plagiarized the concept of the nafs from eastern sources and made it his own. The demons have essentially been degraded to the lowest level of the nafs which is mostly focused on self gratification- and are essentially slaves to the demon overlord. However free they think they are, they fundamentally are chained to him. The wolfmen will have a hard time accepting those of the dawn and dusk as they likely see them as foreign, oppressive deities (but as eddie mentioned, the beastfolk are also mired in sinister dealings), but they will have to come to some sort of accord regarding them. The easterners are not all going to convert wholesale to the primal beast- before the east had the demons to deal with, the west and east were at war with each other. The royalty of the west will likely not be a fan, but will need to probably accomdoate for political expediency. The northern variant of the beastfolk are likely much more moderate regarding this, and personally I find them to be the most well adjusted- unlike the demons and the western beastfolk they have not let their impulses rule over them. In that light, Collin and the others have been altered to have their desires overtake their entire personality in a sense. A person who is enslaved to his own desires is no longer their own man, but merely a puppet for internal and external forces. No matter how alluring their situation is, it still is a cage.
Anonymous
9/2/24, 4:17 PM
Great chapter! At the same time that I regret what happened to Collin, in a way I'm also happy with his ending? In the end, what I wanted was for him to be happy with his family, and in a way he is. Now all that’s left is for Eddie to join this big, perverted family.

Pcm
9/2/24, 4:56 PM
@Anonymous Eddie can become just as perverted as the rest of the demons.πŸ˜€πŸ˜€ He never has a good father before, so Abandon can be his ideal daddy who will show him real manly paternal love. That is one way this could go.
Elm
9/2/24, 4:52 PM
Excellent story! Loved how oblivious the protagonist was, Enrique was very hot too! And the stepdad being turned into a mom was πŸ₯΄
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9/2/24, 4:34 PM
New Update Soon?
9/2/24, 1:11 PM
The biggest problem is having to wait for the next chapter.

9/2/24, 3:42 PM
@[Corin](/user/show/125990) I just checked. Chapter 3 will be posted some time on September 4th. From that point on, a new chapter should post every 3 days. And in total, this series has nine chapters. Every chapter has been edited and submitted for GSS for publishing. But yeah ... sorry about the wait. I've never agreed with Netflix's model to release content all at once. This way, it allows readers to read the stories, and hopefully give some kind of comment to the author. I learned that when stories are published all at once, it's hard for the author to gauge whether their stories worked or didn't work.

9/2/24, 4:08 PM
@[rubbrsome](/user/show/13662) No, it's fine... I actually prefer it that way, too. And you're publishing it quickly enough. To publish the whole series all at once would be overwhelming for my dick anyway. So please go on just like this :)
Anon
9/2/24, 2:09 PM
@Pcm Oh definetly the beastfolk are still not entirely right in their actions. However as the demons begin encroaching upon them something tells me they'll begin to spot their own hypocrisy. Some of them will- I'd guess at Hans figuring it out. Eddie sort of remembering Collin is interesting, but I feel it's a tad strange how the grandmaster who also had a close relashionship with him doesn't even remember him. Personally, I think Eddie is just going to assume he was hallucinating due to some magical shenanigans and move on. Whatever dream he had may be pleasant compared to this awful new world, but he can't afford to mire himself in it. And since it never existed, why fret over it? The demons certainly aren't doing that. For the soul, I believe that ultimately the soul is immortal. Peoples deeds can change who they are, but those are choices people make. Though events that are major can influence this in how people react. The nature of the soul is a complicated thing. The way I was raised has death be an event that causes the soul to experience the ability to see things which were concealed. All things must perish, and eventually in the distant future, so too will the demons. In that moment, I suspect the enchantments on them will be undone, but by then it will be too late to do anything. They will only be burdened by their grief and guilt. The necromancer king is about to become a problem isn't he? Collin was in the dungeon and didn't see him- where did he go? Now thats yet another thing to worry about. Personally, I want Eddie to escape far away and heal. Something tells me a much worse fate awaits him however. But a part of me wants forlorn to try to seduce and fail. Because if Collin never existed, any connection between them does not either. I want him to be free. Let him be with his grief, but be himself. Better than than be killed in spirit and made something else. The demon overlord has ultimately made his victims mindless and puppets for his own wicked ambitions- he has gone so far as to rewrite reality and kill what was human of them in spirit. No matter how much pleasure can be found in his realm, it is ultimately at a horrifying cost. Maybe the ability to heal folk is one thing, but the madness that comes with it is cursed. No matter how much the happiness over the familial reunion is real, the real cost of how it came to be must be kept in mind, at least in my view. The scariest thing is that to some extent it never feels that bad looking in at first, but think a bit more and the demons reveal themselves to be a true horror. As for my scenario regarding forlorn in the north attempting to tempt Eddie, I see that as a somewhat happier ending. Eddie resists and remains himself, and ultimately forlorn either gives up or has to start asking himself some difficult questions about what is truly going on- if his human memories were essentially fake why does this human who is not his family seem to stir him up so emotionally? Who is he? What happened in the past? Why can't he remember? It would become that he can no longer have a desire of his realized, even despite his demonic nature. At this point, forlorn might wind up figuring out that in reality, the life he has memories of as a demon are the lie, but that's all he has been. He might not care too much, but at the same time, he might be jealous of human Collin and Eddie for what they had (imagine being jealous of yourself) and how despite being a demon, he cannot have that. Eddie continues to march to his own beat. This might end with a stalemate where forlorn can only pine over Eddie from afar, but can never have him- such is the price of his pleasure, while Eddie is liberated and free, able to work through his guilt and trauma in the north with loved ones, develop a platonic relashionship with Jason, and have adventures in the north. Eddie may never be who he was, but he will survive. And forlorn simply has to come to terms that he now has no place in that new life Eddie has made, and that it doesn't matter how much pleasure he gluts himself on with his family- Eddie will always remain out of reach. That isn't really a tragedy in my eyes. Eddie is able to heal, and a demon- even if just one with forlorn- is faced with some consequences, even indirectly. Essentially, Eddie enchanting himself to be unable to feel sexual desire or having a dulled ability to do so due to the trauma of witnessing the demon invasions pretty much works as intended, and his disconnect with forlorn due to Collin never existing in this new reality backfires upon forlorn. He has already made his namesake happen to Eddie, and now he can't get anything else. Unless forlorn is ready to look into the skeletons in the closet of the infernal realm and not be as he was, he can't get what he wants. And that would be interesting- to see a demon constantly feel off kilter and paranoid that something isn't right. The demons winning on the other hand I think is still rather terrible regardless- as you've mentioned, they are insidious- any victory they have won't be a good thing in the long run. With the demons, subjugation by power I believe is present. Amidst all the pleasure, the demon overlord essentially psychologically broke everyone and turned them into pawns subject to him. They might not look like they are like that amidst all the pleasure, but since the overlord embodies free hedonism and they are unable to ever be anything else now, they are paradoxically free if one takes a cursory glance upon them, but look deeper and one can tell that tbey are subjugated. Granted, some people in this subjugation have found happiness, but it still is subjugation

Pcm
9/2/24, 2:49 PM
@[Anon](/user/show/10049352) You mentioned sonething interesting about syncreticism. In this world gods are very much real, and the Primal Beast is an active one. How would that translate to the refugees who cannot just refuse to accept the Primal Beast when it is tgrough His power that kept them safe there for the moment? Here is something fun to think about. To Forlorn, he has lived an indeterminable amoubt of times as demons (tine flows strangely in the Infernal Realm). He has lived for but almost two decades in his imaginary time as Collin. The people he knows as Collin makes up so little of the time he has been a demon. Nevertheless, to demons, pleasure is pleasure. There is no need to deny himself anything he wants, after all, if he can make Eddie joins him, even to sate Collin's longign, the rwo can make real memories together. Assuming that there is enchantment, if you have lived under the enchantment for centuries when you have lived for much shorter than that without it, would your real self not be one with the enchantment?

Pcm
9/2/24, 3:02 PM
@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) The demons, I think, represent a question of morality beyond selfish and selflessness. In moralistic stories, the dilemma is beween acting for your own plesdure or acting for others. To the demons, the chocie is there for you to find pleasure alongside everyone you love and literally anyone one else in the world - heck the ebtire world. Ultimately, the demons are true eldritch horror, but paradoxically one we can easily understand. If Eddie does find his own happiness independe t of Collin, it will be a long and arduous process, but certainly possible. Of course, giving in to his imaginary fantasy of a happy life with the man of his dream is rather pleasurable...but that is only a fantasy of a reality that has never existed. The Demon Overlord is certaibly sinister. He is especially salty over his loss against the Dawn and Dusk, and ge is primibg for vengeance. Funny, people were rooting for Gil to succumb and take the Easterners with him, but it is tge opposite here...

Anon
9/2/24, 3:58 PM
@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) To me the demons are in a way very selfish, thiugh they likely see that selfishness as being selfless. The way they are is that they have let their desires rule over them to the expense of others that are not in their immediate circle. They also don't care about how they convert those in their circle as to how they played off Collins clear emotional distress. They also don't seem to care much about how they essentially murder people in spirit- all in the name of pleasure. I'm sure they probably see this as liberating and a gift to spread, but that ultimately has the idea of pleasure before all else baked into it. They do show signs of kindness, but they are in a way very selfish and cruel. They have in a way, devoted themselves entirely to pleasure and have in a way, made it a thing of worship to them. To them, they likely see their actions as liberating people from the cruelties of life, but in reality it's merely replacing one form with the other- the new form simply hiding itself better in the fine print. Eddie I think with no connection to Collin now should just get moving to the north. Him chasing a dream that never was would be utter madness at this point and would simply lead to him being demonized. He knows what forlorn has done (eleven is catatonic now and may be healable but will still likely have scars from what has happened), and he is not foolish. Unlike Collin, he has no idealistic hope that somehow the demons are not too far gone. I hope that Eddie does escape. He had no connection to Collins family, and Collin doesn't even exist anymore practically. So he's only going to focus on the fight. So forlorn may tempt him, but without any emotional connection, I hope he fails. Forlorn is essentially a twisted Collin, so I doubt Eddie would find that appealing. And I sincerely hope he isn't dumb enough to try to do that. I think the reason for why nobody wants the demons to win is because you've shown rightly so how sinister they can be. Gils transformation was euphoric and in defense of his people amidst what could have been eastern prejudice and worse if they had fled. Collin in his conversion dies in spirit with Eddie's name on his lips in clear panic and not wanting to go and becomes a husk of himself in a way- not physically, but the healer who cared for others is long dead now, and is now a threat to the entire world at large. Eddie deserves more than having to get involved with that. He's already lost enough. Him losing his own identity would be less a happy ending, and more a culmination of tragedy. He was born a pawn to his father and abused, and if he winds up converted will die in spirit to a demon whose sole job is to bring despair to others while chasing a lover who is no longer real, while what remains of his lover that never was essentially violates his sense of self. Regardless of any pleasure involved (whoch I'm sure forlorn is great at giving), that is essentially what Eddie's fate would boil down to should forlorn get him.
Anonymous
9/2/24, 3:37 AM
Happy ending β€œfor now”. It sounds like something bad will happen to the demon family, and it may be happened to the now demonfied Collin. According to you, Forlorn remembers his time as Collin, but Eddie doesn't remember who Collin is, and think Collin as Forlorn, the demon prince. Which would likely cause a very depressing event to unfold. My way of thinking is that, Forlorn wants Eddie to joins him, bringing his family to corrupt him, but Eddie already being broken (not knowing who Collin is, the feeling of missing something important to him, and the fact that his friends are being rendered immobile by Forlorn, knowing that East is entirely screwed and he likely won't get far from East), so he killed himself before Forlorn could do anything about it, making Forlorn break down and his family attempted to confort him (I don't know if that's what will happen since he's now a demon). It's a very likely scenario to happen, for someone who crossed the despair event horizon like Eddie. It's just there won't be any demon stopping him. Or another scenario, where Eddie killed Forlorn in an attempt to save the East when he almost succumbed to Forlorn. He eventually remember Forlorn as Collin, crying and begging for him to respond, with the demon already dead. The family may be tempted to kill Eddie, but they will be in so much grief that they cried alongside Eddie. The demon overlord knew that Forlorn is his most important asset in conquest, but without him, he could only retreat with the remaining demons for another conquest. Forlorn tries to convert Eddie will not be successful, as Eddie don't remember who Collin is and would likely not be tempted to join with Forlorn. Maybe Forlorn could tell Eddie, but Eddie will still be clueless as to what he said, only having a very depressing feeling inside him. Eddie may give up and let the demon corrupt him, but I doubt it, if he really give up, he may just die rather than being turned into a demon, which is depressing to see. Of course, those are my speculation, everything is up to the author of this story, after all. It may be too dark, since either one of them may lose their life, but it's a very realistic way to happen. I would like to see if there's an what if story about these two scenarios, and how it will affect the ending of this story.

Pcm
9/2/24, 2:07 PM
@Anonymous The former scenario is so dark. Eddie has always been resolute and determined and hopeful, he wants to protect innocent people at all cost, just likehow collin wants to heal others. If he becomes suicidal, he would seek out death in battles more likely. That is one possible scenario, yes? No comment on the second one.πŸ˜€ Is eddie strong enough to kill forlorn?
Anonymous
9/1/24, 11:41 PM
Nooo not memory lose , man I just want eddie and Collin to be together with all their memories

Anonymous
9/1/24, 11:58 PM
But I do have hope in eddie saving collin as a way to parallel collin saving eddie . I don't think he will return human though but I do think he will be against the Lord changing reality and memories . I think the story's true solution corny as may it be is true love . Even though I think chance of this happening is like 0.11111 I think I still have hope for a miracle like to happen

Pcm
9/2/24, 12:22 AM
@Anonymous The memory loss is on Eddie's end only. Collin remembers everything perfecrly. And it is not really memory loss, because reality has simply veen rewritten to fit the new narrative. I like the story where love conquers all...sometimes. Maybe it will conquer, but not in ways you expect.

Anonymous
9/2/24, 6:40 AM
@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) but I do think something will go wrong with the Lord's plan because I can sense a theme in this story of how the higher establishment taking advantage of people less unfortunate like the grandmaster and Eddie's father, I feel like something bad will happen to the Lord

Anonymous
9/2/24, 7:38 AM
@Anonymous Will have to wait and see, and I agree, there's indication that something would happen to the demons, with Pcm mentioned the part β€œThe demons have their happiest ending possible for now.” With how the theme always being mentioned throughout the story, the demon overlord may have something unexpected happen to him.

Pcm
9/2/24, 1:59 PM
@Anonymous Would tge demons' complete victory be so bad? πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€
Anonymous
9/2/24, 1:05 AM
This is probably the worst thing you have done to Eddie, not only losing memory of his beloved, he will remember Collin as Forlorn, the demon prince. I know things only gone downhill from here, but give the couple a chance here, man... That said, Forlorn do look attractive as a demon.

Pcm
9/2/24, 1:04 PM
@Anonymous Are you sure? I can do worse, I think. Hmm... Forlorn is indeed very handsome as a demon. Who could resist that smile of his?

Anonymous
9/2/24, 1:17 PM
@[Pcm](/user/show/10039396) By the way, there are speculations regarding the way you say a line in the comments, what's your thoughts about it? And will the theme mentioned by someone here will occur again in this story?

Pcm
9/2/24, 1:52 PM
@Anonymous That is spoilery. I mean, what would even qualify as a good or a bad ending in this case? The ones where the demons win? The ones where they lose? They are spot on that the subjugation of people by those in power is a theme here. Does that theme apply to the demons? Theirs is a society where everyone is mindlessly blissful, after all. What the Overlord did, was that not kibd of hin to share his power with his favored henchmen.